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Old Sep 08, 2007, 04:22 AM // 04:22   #1
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Okay, so guildwiki says that if you have a tapestry shred from pre-Searing in your inventory, Gwen will give you a quest in the Hall of Monuments that gives you her flute as a unique reward. My fiance and I are trying to get a tapestry shred from her in pre-Searing but she won't take the flute or cape, just the flowers (and she won't give us the Gwen's Flute quest), so she won't give us the shred. What's going on? Someone help please!

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Old Sep 08, 2007, 04:41 AM // 04:41   #2
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if anyone is a monk primary or secondary while in zone she wont take em
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Old Sep 08, 2007, 04:55 AM // 04:55   #3
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if anyone is a monk primary or secondary while in zone she wont take em
Okay, my fiance's char is a mesmer with no secondary, and he just went out there by himself and still nothing. Is there a certain quest we have to do? She won't give us the Gwen's Flute quest yet.
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Old Sep 08, 2007, 05:13 AM // 05:13   #4
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You have to get through the vanguard primary. You also need to be tyrian born as well for at the least the then and now quest.
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Old Sep 08, 2007, 05:16 AM // 05:16   #5
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You have to get through the vanguard primary. You also need to be tyrian born as well for at the least the then and now quest.
I already beat the Ebon Vanguard primary. But I didn't have a tapestry shred from pre-Searing. So my fiance made a pre-Searing character (his main beat all 3 campaigns) to get me one. And she won't give him the Gwen's Flute quest so she won't take the flute or cape. She only takes the flowers and doesn't give us a tapestry shred. And we're both Tyrian characters. He obviously is since he's in pre-Searing, and my character is Tyrian as well.
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Old Sep 08, 2007, 05:29 AM // 05:29   #6
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You have to get through the vanguard primary. You also need to be tyrian born as well for at the least the then and now quest.
Gwen wouldn't have taken the rose form them if they hand't completed the vanguard story.

Sorry, I can't help you out, but I hope you get it sorted out and complete the quest .
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Old Sep 08, 2007, 05:59 AM // 05:59   #7
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So if you didn't get the tapestry shred on your first character or whatever.. can you buy another tapestry shred off of someone and do this quest?
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Old Sep 08, 2007, 06:00 AM // 06:00   #8
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Is Gwen already wearing a cape and holding a flute in presearing? Unfortunately, there is a bug where if you've partied with anyone who has given her these items already, the game thinks that you have as well, so you can't give them to her, meaning you can't get the tapestry shred. That's the only thing I can think of that would not allow you to give them to her.
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Old Sep 08, 2007, 06:10 AM // 06:10   #9
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Im getting the tapesdry thing from her on my own with a brand new character. I was wondering if, once I take this new char to post searing, could I give that tapesdry shred to my main so that he can give it to post searing gwen?
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Old Sep 08, 2007, 06:18 AM // 06:18   #10
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Im getting the tapesdry thing from her on my own with a brand new character. I was wondering if, once I take this new char to post searing, could I give that tapesdry shred to my main so that he can give it to post searing gwen?
Yeah, that'll work. I had to have a second character get the tapestry shred for my main, since my main got LDoA. So, what with the hundreds of people I got to open the gate for me, many of them would have already given Gwen a cape and flute.
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Old Sep 08, 2007, 06:32 AM // 06:32   #11
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Awesome, and can you still find the broken flute in old ascalon?
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Old Sep 08, 2007, 06:41 AM // 06:41   #12
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Awesome, and can you still find the broken flute in old ascalon?
Yep, but it doesn't have a use that I have found. I haven't looked at wiki though, so there might be something I missed.
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Old Sep 08, 2007, 06:50 AM // 06:50   #13
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I already beat the Ebon Vanguard primary. But I didn't have a tapestry shred from pre-Searing. So my fiance made a pre-Searing character (his main beat all 3 campaigns) to get me one. And she won't give him the Gwen's Flute quest so she won't take the flute or cape. She only takes the flowers and doesn't give us a tapestry shred. And we're both Tyrian characters. He obviously is since he's in pre-Searing, and my character is Tyrian as well.
I'm trying to understand, but did you Fiance make a Monk in pre?

Girl Gwen will not give the "Flute Quest" to Monks... (sucks). (although I'm not sure that will necessarily keep Gwen from giving you the tapestry...)

Also, as someone metioned, if you join up with someone who's already received the Tapestry Shred, you're screwed. Try making a new character.

If worse comes to worse, and you just can't get one, PM me (Amara Dawnbreaker) and I'll give you one. It's late tonight, but maybe tomorrow...
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Old Sep 08, 2007, 05:39 PM // 17:39   #14
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I'm trying to understand, but did you Fiance make a Monk in pre?
Well, the character he was trying to do it on was a mesmer, but perhaps he did journey with someone who'd already given her the things. He deleted that character and now he has a monk, but he had an extra character slot. So I made one on his account (an elementalist) and I did manage to get the Gwen's Flute quest. I gave it to her, so now I believe all I have to do is buy her a new flute, a girl's cape, and give her some red iris flowers. Wonder why she doesn't give the quest to monks...maybe because she heals? I don't know. lol

This reminds me, wiki says that only Tyrian-born characters can trigger the dialog with Gwen in the Hall of Monuments (prior to the Fire and Pain quest), but my fiance's character that he took in there is a dervish (obviously not Tyrian) but the dialog still triggered. Is this because he had a tapestry shred in inventory or storage or something? Or is it a glitch? It seems that if the character isn't Tyrian, that shouldn't trigger no matter what. But I could be wrong. hehe However, my ranger is Tyrian and I took her in there with a preserved red iris flower in my inventory, but the dialog didn't trigger. She did give me the Fire and Pain quest though. Oh well, I want her unique flute. hehe Thanks everyone!

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Old Sep 08, 2007, 05:49 PM // 17:49   #15
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You might want to run out of flowers for gwen in pre then give her stuff,might work.
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Old Sep 08, 2007, 06:53 PM // 18:53   #16
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Okay, I was wondering - my fiance has an extra character slot but I'm all out (lol). So he has a pre-Searing character that I made on his account (an elementalist with no secondary profession yet). Is it possible for him to trade the tapestry shred with me on my account if get gets one? Thanks!
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Old Sep 18, 2007, 06:37 AM // 06:37   #17
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Nope. I am a monk primary & I got the flute quest from her. That was the 1st quest I did in pre-sear (after completing the primary profession quest) Most probably is due to partying. I did most of the pre-sear quest alone.
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This reminds me, wiki says that only Tyrian-born characters can trigger the dialog with Gwen in the Hall of Monuments (prior to the Fire and Pain quest), but my fiance's character that he took in there is a dervish (obviously not Tyrian) but the dialog still triggered. Is this because he had a tapestry shred in inventory or storage or something? Or is it a glitch?
This is good to know. I had given up all hope of getting this quest, because my main is Cathan born. I can't stand not being able to do everything in the game at least once with my main...
Thanks!!!

Edit: Guess I messed up some where?? I just went back with the tapestry shred and broken flute, but, she did not have the quest. I do remember doing another quest with her before, so maybe that's it???

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Okay, I was wondering - my fiance has an extra character slot but I'm all out (lol). So he has a pre-Searing character that I made on his account (an elementalist with no secondary profession yet). Is it possible for him to trade the tapestry shred with me on my account if get gets one? Thanks!
Yes, once he is out of pre. Unless you have a pre on your account to trade with him. I have a Tyrian born monk and that is how I got the tapestry shred and broken flute on my main (Canthan born Ranger).
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Old Sep 18, 2007, 08:21 PM // 20:21   #20
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it was the punishment for the thunderhead keep monk boycott
and i believe she only gives the quest to tyrian made chars
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